does yahoo determine web rank

[ali]

i m just wondring that if Yahoo uses the same factors when determining webrank as google does when determining page rank? -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

[fraank]

Best I can tell it's a like a cross between PageRank and Alexa rating . But I'm not 100% certain on that. -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

[sio]

We have virtually disappeared from yahoo since they switched from google to overture with pay per inclusion. Still in the index, but rankings don't rank anywhere. Do we have to pay the $229 to be included in the yahoo index to rank decently for our keywords? Or is it possible to do this with better SE optimization, as can be done with google?

Any thoughts are appreciated. -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

[laker]

Originally Posted by fraank

Best I can tell it's a like a cross between PageRank and Alexa rating . But I'm not 100% certain on that.

Where did you find anything that suggested it took links into consideration? I read the FAQ and anything else I could find and I didn't see anything that suggested it was anything other than a pure popularity measure -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

[fraank]

Well immediately when they released it, I had a couple sites that I'm certain no one visited with the toolbar except myself, but they have very high link counts. Those sites were coming up with WebRanks much higher. -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

[master]

Originally Posted by sio

We have virtually disappeared from yahoo since they switched from google to overture with pay per inclusion. Still in the index, but rankings don't rank anywhere. Do we have to pay the $229 to be included in the yahoo index to rank decently for our keywords? Or is it possible to do this with better SE optimization, as can be done with google?

Any thoughts are appreciated.

I have one site I never submit -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

[madison]

Originally Posted by master

I have one site I never submitted to yahoo or ink and a couple days ago it started showing up #3 and 4 for a specific keyword. So the answer is no you don't have to pay and yes SE optimization does work in helping yahoo rankings.

Two of my keywords are consistantly showing up #1 & #14 in Yahoo, and I did not pay for inclusion. But, I also havn't done any SEO to this site, aside from a couple meta tags and a cou -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

[nirvana]

Your palcement in the Yahoo's SERPs for any given keyword have nothing to do with their new WEbRank measure. Again I haven't read that it works like Alexa -- you have to have the tool bar loaded.
And I would be very careful about drawing any conclusion from the relative placement of pages or site. This is only a beta version and I have found it very inconsistent from usage to usage. I've seen it rank the same site anywhere between 2 and 5. Put the same site in 3 or 4 taimes a day and see if it doesn't give you 3 or 4 different ranks. -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

[sangtar]

Traffic huh?
Well according to my logs my sites should be ranked
* pcpropertymanager - Google PR5
* botspotter - PR5
* property coaching - PR4
but according to Shawn's tool Yahoo have them as:
* property coaching - 7
* botspotter - 6
* pcpropertymanager - 2

So, either the people testing this tool bar are right into property investing in NZ or there's something fishy going on. -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

[bevan]

But the Yahoo tool cannot be compared to Google's PR. They are measuring two totally different things. PR is the mathematical sharing of all the PR from the pages you link to. It has got absolutely nothing to do with how often your site is visited.
The Yahoo Web Rank is all about visits. It is a pure popularity measure based on the number of visits.
There is absolutely no reason it should parallel or duplicate the PR ranking. -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --