is this right that's doing seo

quasi · #1 09-21-2006, 10:54 AM

hi there,

I was under the impression that if your webpages were code-compliant, it'd be better and easier for search engine spiders to go thru your site, and thus result in better search engine results. Within my own work, this proved true in most situations.
Today I got back to work on a client's website which I had poured thru for 2 weeks making W3C-compliant. He let me do that along with a few other SEO tricks as a kind of "practice" as he wanted better SEO, I'm actively learning SEO and I've been his webmaster for almost 2 years.
Last month he hired a SEO company for a few hundred dollars a month, and they've made changes to the site which result in non-compliant pages. They've also resorted to a lot of keyword repetition in the meta tags (as in 35-45% of keywords and description are the same word), which I thought was a negative as it seems spammy.
So now I'm totally confused on SEO... a lot of the things they're doing seems contrary t -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

deness · #2 09-21-2006, 11:04 AM

w3c is not the biggest things seo companies worry about, but in a professional manner i think they should have kept the standards..did they do web design aswell or something?About the keyword thing it really does depend on the keywords they were going for... -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

banker · #3 09-21-2006, 11:08 AM

If you want AngelusC, PM me the URL -- I'll take a look and let you know. -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

victor · #4 09-21-2006, 11:14 AM

I have seen a lot of top ranked sites that do not comply with W3C and repeat keywords in meta tags as you mentioned. The only way to have an effective SEO program, is to compare the elements your site uses, with the exisiting top 10 ranked sites for the same keywords you are targeting.
These elements include a comparison in the keyword density in the meta Title, Description, Keywords, plus the body text, the outbound links, headline text, same site links, image alt links and more.
Then you have to have a good inbound linking program. Unless the SEO company you mentioned does all of the above, your site will not get better SEO.
It is better, in my opinion, to do the SEO yourself, rather than hiring a company, with the IBP-9 Webpage Optimizer. I am using it, and it seems to be working for me, as my sites are being ranked much higher on the keywords I am after. -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

quasi · #5 09-21-2006, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by deness

w3c is not the biggest things seo companies worry about, but in a professional manner i think they should have kept the standards..did they do web design aswell or something?About the keyword thing it really does depend on the keywords they were going for...

No, they didn't do any design at all, I created the website about a year ago and last month made it all 100% compliant.

We had a telephone confe -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

kinsley · #6 09-21-2006, 11:24 AM

Compliance should be the least of your worries when it comes to SEO in my opinion. In all honestly it's not even worth the effort getting sites to 'standards' because that effort doesn't pay.

W3C is overrated. -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

jivasko · #7 09-21-2006, 11:35 AM

kinsley,
From an SEO perspective this is very true. But websites aren't just for search engines. Your visitors should come first.Compliance will certainly help with future-proofing your website and give your audience the widest possibilities to view your site as you intended it to be viewed.
I think W3C will come more to the fore as alternative platforms for viewing content become more prevalent. -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

issac · #8 09-21-2006, 11:43 AM

I think it really doesn't matter.
More than 98% sites on web are not W3C-complaint. -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

read · #9 09-21-2006, 11:48 AM

I think it's all realtive, if you can make a page standards compliant, then great, that's ideal. Pages that have a few things wrong then you're probably not going to notice a difference, however if the coding is a complete mess then yes, you could suffer in the SERPS because of it. I'd be more worries about the spammy tags personally, okay, the site probably won't get penalised becase of keyword repitition in the metas, but if that's the sort of work that they do, then it makes you wonder in what other areas are they messing up? -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --

barrymore · #10 09-21-2006, 11:53 AM

w3c standards have nothing to do with SEO.
Search engines, mostly, evaluate the text part of the document only
and ignore the code part. -- This message may have been cut off and the rest will only be shown to members. To become a member, click here --